{"id":5057,"date":"2021-11-17T14:55:40","date_gmt":"2021-11-17T12:55:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/?p=5057"},"modified":"2021-11-17T15:05:25","modified_gmt":"2021-11-17T13:05:25","slug":"varoufakis-kostakis","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/en\/varoufakis-kostakis\/","title":{"rendered":"Yanis Varoufakis and Vasilis Kostakis agree that &#8220;Green capitalism&#8221; \u2013as a response to the ecological crisis and the unequal distribution of wealth\u2013 is an illusion"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\">&#8220;Green capitalism&#8221;, as a response to the ecological crisis and the crisis of unequal distribution of wealth, is an illusion: technological innovation alone cannot solve problems that are by definition unsolvable in the present relations of power and property.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is the conclusion to which <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/en\/vasilis-kostakis\/\">Vassilis Kostakis<\/a><\/strong>&nbsp; and&nbsp; <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/en\/varoufakis-yanis\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Yanis Varoufakis<\/a> <\/strong>jointly arrived, as discussants in the event &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/en\/activities\/p2p\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>What comes after capitalism? A discussion on P2P and the digital commons<\/strong><\/a>&#8221; organised on Monday in Serafeio (Athens) by the Centre for Postcapitalist Civilisation&nbsp;(m\u03adta), continuing an effort to deepen the discussion on mapping alternatives to the present dystopian forms of social organisation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/DSC_0594-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5037\" width=\"567\" height=\"378\" srcset=\"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/DSC_0594-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/metacpc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/DSC_0594-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/metacpc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/DSC_0594-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/metacpc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/DSC_0594-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/metacpc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/DSC_0594-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/metacpc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/DSC_0594.jpg 1800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 567px) 100vw, 567px\" \/><figcaption><em>Professor Vasilis Kostakis (TalTech, Harvard)<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\">In his presentation, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/en\/vasilis-kostakis\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Vassilis Kostakis<\/a><\/strong>, Professor of P2P Governance at TalTech and Faculty Associate at Harvard University\u2018s Berkman Klein Centerand a member of the P2P Lab cooperative, deconstructed the myth that competition and private initiative promote innovation and described the opposing vision of &#8220;cosmolocalism&#8221;, according to which the horizontal cooperation of producers on a peer-to-peer basis and the free movement of <em>open<\/em> technologies offers possibilities for strengthening local communities in dialogue with global realities; possibilities for the democratisation of production, &#8220;digital&#8221; and &#8220;physical&#8221; alike, as well as for countering climate change. At the same time, however, he pointed out the limits of these projects, to the extent that the business giants, at the moment the biggest funders of open-source research, are raising new &#8220;fences&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As immediate objectives, however, he highlighted the need to fully utilise open source software in the public sector and to create spaces for the intersection of cooperative production and open technologies, in order to create a plurality of business and technological models; at a broader level, copyright laws need to be changed on a European level.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\">On his part, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/en\/varoufakis-yanis\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Yanis Varoufakis<\/a>, <\/strong>professor at the University of Athens and secretary of MeRA25, reminded us of the role of state initiative and funding, as well as the cooperative logic in the creation of, e.g., the internet and wi-fi, up until the appropriation of new technologies by private &#8220;dinosaurs&#8221;, as has always been the case in the history of capitalism.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;We are not going,&#8221; he warned, &#8220;to simply experience a (r)evolution of these collaborative platforms that will push the capitalist system into the corner \u2013 quite the contrary. The only way for this kind of collaborative effort not to have the outcome of Robert Owen&#8217;s 19th century project, for example, is through the political action of political parties and movements, which, utilising the knowledge of the fact that these platforms can be more profitable than the capitalist ones, will clash relentlessly with the political, legal and economic aspect of the horrid predicament that private property is.&#8221; He further pointed out the importance of this debate for the realisation that technological progress is not identical to capitalism and does not presuppose it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\">The particularly active participation of the audience in the Q&amp;A showed the interest that the subject sparks and ultimately its politically crucial nature, encouraging <a href=\"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/en\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">m\u03adta<\/a> to revisit the issue soon, further focusing on the question of the &#8220;commons,&#8221; digital and otherwise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"421\" src=\"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/DSC_0471-1024x421.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5039\" srcset=\"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/DSC_0471-1024x421.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/metacpc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/DSC_0471-300x123.jpg 300w, https:\/\/metacpc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/DSC_0471-768x316.jpg 768w, https:\/\/metacpc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/DSC_0471-1536x631.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/metacpc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/DSC_0471-1200x493.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/metacpc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/DSC_0471.jpg 1793w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Green capitalism&#8221;, as a response to the ecological [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":5036,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"template-parts\/content-blog.php","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_eb_attr":"","_EventAllDay":false,"_EventTimezone":"","_EventStartDate":"","_EventEndDate":"","_EventStartDateUTC":"","_EventEndDateUTC":"","_EventShowMap":false,"_EventShowMapLink":false,"_EventURL":"","_EventCost":"","_EventCostDescription":"","_EventCurrencySymbol":"","_EventCurrencyCode":"","_EventCurrencyPosition":"","_EventDateTimeSeparator":"","_EventTimeRangeSeparator":"","_EventOrganizerID":[],"_EventVenueID":[],"_OrganizerEmail":"","_OrganizerPhone":"","_OrganizerWebsite":"","_VenueAddress":"","_VenueCity":"","_VenueCountry":"","_VenueProvince":"","_VenueState":"","_VenueZip":"","_VenuePhone":"","_VenueURL":"","_VenueStateProvince":"","_VenueLat":"","_VenueLng":"","_VenueShowMap":false,"_VenueShowMapLink":false,"_tribe_events_control_status":"","_tribe_events_control_status_canceled_reason":"","_tribe_events_control_status_postponed_reason":"","_tribe_events_control_online":"","_tribe_events_control_online_url":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[75],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5057","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news-en"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5057","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5057"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5057\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5070,"href":"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5057\/revisions\/5070"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/5036"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5057"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5057"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/metacpc.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5057"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}